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Warren Lied, McCain Wasn’t In The Cone of Silence

So much for being up front and honest.  If McCain wasn’t going to be in the cone of silence then he should have just told us.  I still think Obama and McCain did good.  Obama did good at letting people know his feelings on faith issues and showing his sincerity.  McCain just put on a good show and told good jokes.

NYT Reports,

Members of the McCain campaign staff, who flew here Sunday from California, said Mr. McCain was in his motorcade on the way to the church as Mr. Obama was being interviewed by the Rev. Rick Warren, the author of the best-selling book “The Purpose Driven Life.”

The matter is of interest because Mr. McCain, who followed Mr. Obama’s hourlong appearance in the forum, was asked virtually the same questions as Mr. Obama. Mr. McCain’s performance was well received, raising speculation among some viewers, especially supporters of Mr. Obama, that he was not as isolated during the Obama interview as Mr. Warren implied.

Nicolle Wallace, a spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, said on Sunday night that Mr. McCain had not heard the broadcast of the event while in his motorcade and heard none of the questions.

“The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.

Wow, playing the veteran card.  So, somehow a former prisoner of war, who admitted cheating on his wife, says that we shouldn’t say McCain cheated, even though he wasn’t in the cone of silence.  Why are we supposed to believe Nicolle Wallace, when its her job to make McCain look good, she could have also been lying.  I tend to think that when you play the veteran card, that you insinuate that you do have something to hide.

Heres more from NYT,

Mr. Warren, the pastor of Saddleback, had assured the audience while he was interviewing Mr. Obama that “we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence” and that he could not hear the questions.

After Mr. Obama’s interview, he was joined briefly by Mr. McCain, and the candidates shook hands and embraced.

Mr. Warren started by asking Mr. McCain, “Now, my first question: Was the cone of silence comfortable that you were in just now?”

Mr. McCain deadpanned, “I was trying to hear through the wall.”

Interviewed Sunday on CNN, Mr. Warren seemed surprised to learn that Mr. McCain was not in the building during the Obama interview.

Why would Warren have been surprised that McCain wasn’t in the “cone of silence”, shouldn’t he have checked himself to visually see if McCain was in the there.  The fact that when asked McCain said, “I was trying to hear through the wall.” just shows how much of a show he was putting on.  Maybe I should give Rick Warren the benefit of the doubt, he does great things for people all over the country through his community service and ministries.  Im just a little disappointed that we were basically lied to, and that there’s millions of people who think that this was a “fair” forum.

HONOR SYSTEM…

This is from DailyKos,

Warren with Obama:

Q. OKAY LET’S GO TO EDUCATION. AMERICA RIGHT NOW 23 RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION. WE’RE FIRST IN INCARCERATIONS.

A. NOT GOOD.

Q. NOT GOOD. 80 PERCENT OF AMERICANS RECENT POLE SAID THEY BELIEVE IN MERIT PAY FOR TEACHERS.

1. I’M NOT ASKING DO YOU THINK ALL TEACHERS SHOULD GET A RAISE.

2. DO YOU THINK BETTER TEACHERS SHOULD BE PAID BETTER?

3. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING MORE THAN POOR TEACHERS?

Now to McCain:

Q ALL RIGHT. LET’S TALK ABOUT EDUCATION. AMERICA 18 RANKS 19TH IN HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS, BUT WE’RE FIRST IN 19 INCARCERATION. EVERYBODY SAYS THEY WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN SCHOOLS?

A UH-HUH.

Q ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF AMERICA SAYS THEY SUPPORT MERIT PAY FOR THE BEST TEACHERS. NOW, I DON’T WANT TO HEAR YOUR STUMP SPEECH ON EDUCATION?

A YES. YES. AND FIND BAD TEACHERS ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.

Q YOU KNOW –

A CAN I –

Q YOU ARE ANSWERING SO QUICKLY.

A CAN I –

Q YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME OF POKER?

Read more transcripts from the faith forum http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/17/02247/6361

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Faith Forum: Sincerity Versus Stump Speech

UPDATE, Rick Warren admits McCain wasn’t in cone of silence, transcript and video seems to prove McCain know what the questions were before going into the forum. Click here

I was so happy to watch the faith forum.  It was a little different and more interesting then a normal debate or forum that I have seen before.  But, what we got from the candidates were very different.

Obama, seeing as how he had nothing to lose, he gave very sincere answers to the questions and gave deeper reasons into what he believe.  McCain gave his typical stump speech, I was definitely expecting more serious personal answers to questions that were asked of McCain.

Example, when asked is there evil and would you defeat it, negotiate it, or something else.  Both the candidates said defeat.  McCain just said defeat and mentioned radical extremist and then that was pretty much it.  Obama also said defeat it but also gave a more insightful answer about what evil is, how do we tackle evil and also gave us more of an intellectual conversation instead of acting as though the public is stupid by giving short answers.

Example, pro-life.  McCain said he would be a pro-life president, and just left it at that.  Obama gave reasons why he supports Roe V. Wade, explained its importance, and mention that he put in the democratic platform ways to reduce abortion rather then completely taken away a woman’s right to choose.

Other note, McCain gave his typical stump speech drill, drill, drill.  He said, he knew how to find Bin Laden, and yet didn’t mention Afghanistan.  He said that he wouldn’t raise taxes, even though a few weeks ago he said he would consider raising taxes.  Also he didn’t answer the question of what income is considered rich.  Obama, being specific said, $250,000 or more, which is top 5%.  McCain being very broad said, he wants everyone to be rich….YAY?, thanks for not answering the question.

Look I respect McCain’s service, but is that all he has to reference.  I love war stories and like to listen to old people talk about their war stories.  McCain could just not give us another aspect of his life besides war.  We know McCain’s a POW but, I would like to know more about his life besides war.

To get the gist, if you missed it, it was:

McCain was war, war, war, POW, Islamic extremist, stories, no substance, jokes, nothing to prove (mostly conservative evangelical audience), didn’t answer questions fully, man of few words, oh and vote for me because Im a veteran (guilt trip alert).

Obama was Jesus, god, christian, personal, intellectual, in-depth, substance, a little more serious, nothing to lose (evangelicals aren’t his base, most aren’t going to vote for him), bible quote, sincere, honest, talks a lot, answered questions, man of a lot of words, oh and values.

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